Thoughts on Neuromancer The Film / The Book

I just re-read Neuromancer for the third time (and Count Zero and am working on Mona Lisa Overdrive) and was thinking about the potential film in context.

Hayden Christensen is not a bad choice for Case, really. His acting is a little wooden but a good director can get more out of him. remember, when we meet Case he is a burned-out junkie hustler with little more than his instincts going for him, a stray dog looking for his next meal and who he has to bite to survive. As he cleans up, he is still a little flat, almost pathetic, so much so that he has no sense of what is going on around him. This is all within Christensen's range. His role in Broken Glass shows a bit more depth than that he displayed as either Anakin or the character in Jumper.

However, we have to really look at Molly as the "star of the show". she is the one who has as much control as anyone over her own destiny.

Also, the Finn is huge, not only because of his own self, but the various "Finns" we meet along the way.

As far as any possible failure of film to reflect Bill's work based on previous efforts (I take the familiar designation by way of following convention, not that I know the man personally), we must recall that he himself had a great deal of input into Johnny Mnemonic, which I did enjoy, regardless of Keanu Reeves' wooden interpretation or the growth of Johnny proportional to the diminiation of Jane/Sally/Molly.

All that said, I saw a perfect Molly in a film last week - Emily Blunt - in a film called Wind Chill . She did a nice "Sprawl" accent (she's Canadian, I think, but still managed to sound like she was from Delaware) and has a face that would still be striking even if her eyes were completely covered by mirrored lenses. It is essential that she not have some bogus contacts - it must look like mirrorshades. Ms. Blunt has enough facial characteristics to stand up to having her eyes concealed. Many people are dependent upon their eyes for their beauty and with them it just would not work. In this respect, she is much like a younger version (but in her own right) of Angelina Jolie.

The Finn - once upon a time I saw Harry Dean Stanton as the Finn, but Harry's getting a bit feeble and in my re-reading I saw someone new - Steve Buscemi. He's really perfect for the part. I can just hear him saying, "I gotta pair of shoes older than you are."

Riviera - I see Jude Law.

For the Flatline - once I thought Kristofferson, but now I think Billy Bob Thornton.

Armitage/Corto - once I would have liked that part to be Ah-nold (before Total Recall happened) but now I see Christian Bale. I think he could do an excellent job of unraveling over time in a believable manner.

For music, I would use Robert Rich. His ability to create surreal electro-acoustic landscapes would fit the crumbling urban landscape as well as the equally seedy orbital environment.

One more thing - in the forward to the 25th anniversary edition, Bill mentioned hardwired payphones no longer existing. However, there was a war at some point. What if cellphones are made illegal, and the bandwidth they once used seized by governments, or even Turing, for that matter. Then, when Molly and case go into the Finn's junkshop, case and accidentally knock over a box of scrapped cell phones and someone can say, "they used to use these, didn't they?" and the other can say, "Not as stable as a land line."
 


dayum, d00dzor....j00 gats a po1nt.
 
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She does look right for the part (from my imaginings).
 
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Emily is English but she is dating Canadian singer Michael Buble.

She would make a good Molly, she's a rather good actress, but Hayden is still a problem, not because he's wooden or bad at acting but becuase he always comes off like a whining teenager.

Case is sore loser and an addict but I never saw him as a disaffected, angsty teen.

Heyden doesn't play his own age very well and the money they are funneling to him will likely preclude any other choices of the caliber you cite unless Kahn has some unfortunate early "art photos" that some celebrities did when trying to scrounge money to eat.
 
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Reading the Sprawl Triology myself the second time after more than ten years, I'm not sure if I ever want to see a Neuromancer movie at all. Although (scanning this forum since a few days) I find that ├╝berDog has made a few good cases how it could/should look like in another thread ("Johnny Mnemonic vs New Rose Hotel" I believe).

The book is over 20 years old now and I almost can't see other options than a) fucking it entirely up by trying to transform a clear and amazing 80's vision of the future into a modern, but totally dumb and drippy Hollywood-like vision, - or b) by making a homage only enthusiasts would understand and appriciate. Though even a pure homage could be made "wrong", if the script is written from some weird french artist on acid and filmed by a german existentialist with a soft spot for norwegian love stories, thus focusing strictly on the relationship between Case and Molly. Budget: 51.024,55 Euros, filmed with a nokia cell phone in hungary.

Okay, there is probably a third option but this would include producers, directors and actors who actually have a clear idea of what they try to film. Who have a real motivation to put Neuromancer on the screen and not just another fancy movie about the (drum roll) "future". Because it deserves it, because it was and still is one crazy piece of kick-ass SF literature, a true classic. But how likely is this or will be? :-(

At last I'm writing nothing new, I guess. There must have been a gazillion discussions already since Neuromancer was published. I would be already amazed from a little, well made short-movie of "Burning Chrome". It's not that extensive, it would need just a few CGI's, a few almost unknown but perfectly fitting actors. Just to have a glimpse on how "Gibson on screen" probably could look like.

Apart from this, reading Neuromancer again after 10 years is like reading a story from a parallel universe that had "really" existed, but only for a short period of time. Strange somehow ... its so incredible vital because of a 30ish W.G. been so incredible insane, but you know that this universe is already gone for good, flushed back into the big quantum cloud of possible futures.

Just a few thoughts I couldn't hold off, forgive me for beeing slightly offtopic, heh.
 
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Not off-topic at all, really. You raise valid points. However....

...my hope is that whoever takes on the project, from Producers/Writer/Director/Editor to Scenic/Costumes/Location to Acting, all have at least read the book, if not the trilogy, and understand that we are not looking at a sleek, shiny future but more of a Blade Runner-like dystopia where, a book later, ten year old kids are stealing biohazardous material out of dumpsters and where parts of New Jersey have been reduced to plains of refuse and scrap metal.

Even the Space Program has resulted in little but privately owned orbital Freezones.

Bonn nuked? It could still happen. As I mentioned in my previous post, cell phones, the one thing that Bill did not anticipate, could easily go away if wireless transmission of information is made illegal, resulting in a shutdown of towers and removal of communications satellites. We cannot assume because we have these things now that we will have them 20 or 50 years into the future.

Getting that kind of talent might not be as hard as it sounds if the people involved think the project is worthy. I have seen quite a few low budget films that had some heavyweights in bit parts. Did Million Dollar Hotel have a big budget?

Actually, Case is a whiner. He starts whining the moment he finds out he can no longer get high. He is a bit of a teenager. With the mission riding on him, he goes out and gets loaded to the point where he can barely function. He is actually a bit of a hoser.
 
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Originally posted by Boogerhead:


dayum, d00dzor....j00 gats a po1nt.


What a twit I am. I did not recognize her with lighter hair. In Wind Chill she had dark hair. Heheh. She is THE ONE.
 
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Some more ideas (can anyone tell I am obsessed by this?)...

Hideo - Jet Li
Julius Deane - David Bowie (of course)
 
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I honestly think it should be an animation.
 
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i'm starting to agree with Boog... but you have to understand, my dad and i often discuss "who would you cast as who" .
cannot see Hayden as Case. I just can't. I could see Hayden as Riviera if Leo DiCaprio were not embedded in my head as Riviera.
Love Emily Blunt as Molly, she's great. Definately needs a stab at being the ass-kicker.
Neal McDonough has the perfect Armitage eyes, IMHO.
Julius Deane - David Bowie (of course) OF COURSE!!
"Case is a whiner. He starts whining the moment he finds out he can no longer get high. He is a bit of a teenager. With the mission riding on him, he goes out and gets loaded to the point where he can barely function. He is actually a bit of a hoser."
yes, but Hayden... is just so typecast as that whiny victimized person.
pleasepleaseplease not Hayden.
 
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Hayden would not have been my choice, either, if I was the producer and had a Bag O' Bucks to make things happen. I might have gone with Jared Leto, though I would love to see Leto as The Count. the Count should have been Matt Dillon but he is too long in the tooth these days to play a 20-something living with his mother.
 
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I think that te success of WATCHMEN in portraying an alternative 80s future will inform the cinematic possibilities for NEUROMANCER to do the same.

Hayden sucks.
 
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The thought of Neuromancer in cinema gives me belly pangs, but many others, including the vast unwashed masses who've never read the book, want to see it whether they know it or not.

I would probably view it just to resolve my grotesque curiosity.

I think it would work best if conceived of as an intellectual but high-shock voltage thriller, whose future setting is merely a subtle style decision.

If it was conceived from the onset not as sci-fi, much less cyberpunk, but as a tight story with exceptional characters from righteous Rastafari space-tug pilots to creepy psychotic mind illusionist on your team, it could be a right fun flick. (The Bourne Ultimatum versus Blade Runner redux or This is Cyberpunk: The REAL Virtual Thing
 
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The only kids from my trilogic dreamcast to whom I remain unendingly committed:

Hillary Swank as Molly
Samuel L. Jackson as the voice of Snake Man
Aishwairya Rai as Dr. Virginia Rambali
Eric Cantona as Terzibashjian

Max Von Sydow as Ashpool
Isabelle Huppert as Marie-France Tessier
Kerry Condon as 3Jane

Me as the Modern's link man
Mia Kirshner as Angie Mitchell/Mona
Gary Busey as Conroy
Michael Clarke Duncan as Lucas

And, in the prequel maxi-series BURNING CHROME on HBO that precedes the movie...(that's how I'd do it, anyway)

Stephanie Ferrell reprising her role as Rikki Wildside


Ohter than that, the producer/director can do what he wants.... Smile
 
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Hi, I'm new so this is my first post but wanted to chime in since I've been reading a bit about the movie in the news lately.

To be fair to Hayden, he's only done a handful of theatrical movies and most of those roles were written as so-called whiny characters.

Maybe Case could be seen as somewhat whiny in the beginning but that doesn't mean the movie version Case has to be written whiny.

I think Hayden can pull off vulnerable without being whiny. Some of it depends on the script and director's vision also.
 
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Originally posted by Universal:
The only kids from my trilogic dreamcast to whom I remain unendingly committed:

Hillary Swank as Molly
Samuel L. Jackson as the voice of Snake Man
Aishwairya Rai as Dr. Virginia Rambali
Eric Cantona as Terzibashjian

Max Von Sydow as Ashpool
Isabelle Huppert as Marie-France Tessier
Kerry Condon as 3Jane

Me as the Modern's link man
Mia Kirshner as Angie Mitchell/Mona
Gary Busey as Conroy
Michael Clarke Duncan as Lucas

And, in the prequel maxi-series BURNING CHROME on HBO that precedes the movie...(that's how I'd do it, anyway)

Stephanie Ferrell reprising her role as Rikki Wildside


Ohter than that, the producer/director can do what he wants.... Smile
Who the fuck is Virginia Rambali?
 
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Originally posted by Boogerhead:
I honestly think it should be an animation.


I agree.
 
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I gottadmit, a cutting edge CGI adaptation would be essentially cyberpunk.

Alas.

(Chandlerian voiceover of Case's internal monologue) If they made a movie of this, the actors would all be bots. Why am I here again? Something to do with me and my meat. And toxic fungi, or turning on my former employers, or the death of Hollywood. Remember Hollywod? I do *sigh*.
 
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this discussion is the ultimate loop statement Big Grin we just keep talking about it over and over and over.. I enjoy just ignoring the fact and ending up surprised when the result occurs, consistent hype is a bit over rated and hard to do - and frankly we've all got better things to do Wink (this is my exact reason for the lack of news with my game adaptation (things are moving along slowly but getting there))

Films are like that though, but if they release some bullshit teaser trailer I won't be happy, I want proof and reassurance that what we're getting is real and not some fanboi youtube clip.
 
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So...animation meaning:

Classic 80s style Saturday morning style cheapness? (something like the first Heavy Metal)

TMNT\Final Fantasy\Beowulf style?

Waking Life\Scanner Darkly rotoscope-age?

Mixed mode? With the traditional 90s divide between "cell" style "real world" and then the Computar Simulated "virtual" Matrix world?

Also, for conversations sake:

What scenes from the book would you leave out when transferring to film?

Maybe the acquiring drugs in Freeside?
Or Molly kissing her hand to say goodbye to Case?
Or that bit with Riviera and the swimming sperm in Case's drink on the flight up the well?

Surely something would have to be cut, so what would it be?
 
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For a film, you have to cut what isn't necessary to the main plot (mostly.)

That would mean possibly cutting Linda Lee, and Julie Deane.

The acquiring of Riviera in Istanbul might go.

The scene after Case's surgery where Molly kicks the gardening crab.

One or two of the Wintermute interludes might be condensed into another.

Basically you'd condense Chiba City Blues and move right into the main plot after you set up Case's "ordinary world" of being a street addict and former cowboy.

Figure that Chiba City is the set up, maybe fifteen minutes long. No more than 20, likely.

Move into the Sprawl, into Finn and Riv, get their ass to Freeside and hurtle toward the climax.
 
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I was thinking Linda and Deane myself. Good for novel establishing the setting, not so much for a film (where I'd expect folks would want it to relate to something else later on). Probably have to ditch the cobra as well.

I'm wondering about the Sense\Net raid as well.

My vote would be for 80s-style Heavy Metal animation. Just seems more cyberpunky to me than trying to use CGI, which is best, really, at making things look nice and clean.

Maybe Pander Bros inspired art\backgrounds?
Or Geof Darrow?
Darick Robertson?

Somebody like that. High density backgrounds at the very least.

I think CGI animation would be very wrong, unless it's reserved for the Matrix portions as I mentioned.
 
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I think CGIO would be good if done right.

Sense/Net I thought about but it's heavy action and eye candy, plus it establishes what Case does when he "hacks."
 
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Linda Lee is vitally important to Case's character development, to the point that cutting her from the scenes in the virtual beach would reduce the end of the film to nonsense.

While I dislike the notion of cutting too much of the novel's material, I agree that, as Linda Lee's importance isn't immediately apparent until the end of the story (when her simulated double becomes instrumental to Case's survival), you could probably cut her from the beginning, but would have to cut those weirder cybermystical moments from the end.
 
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Originally posted by UberDog:
I think CGIO would be good if done right.

Sense/Net I thought about but it's heavy action and eye candy, plus it establishes what Case does when he "hacks."


It is both of those things that's true. I was thinking more from a streamlining perspective it has all this weird shit, which, as lovers of Teh Gibz books, we here are quite down with, but for a "standard movie audience"?

Panthern Moderns, and their suits, and the media clip, and the ROM, and, again, all cool, all things I'd want to see, but can't they be masked to other purposes? Dixie Flatline can be culled, the rest of it doesn't really come up again in plot terms.

You can extend Case running from Molly in Chiba and Molly vs. Hideo for action and the first and the final Matrix scenes should provide enuff netty action.

Of course, if it was up to me it'd be a mini-series more so than a feature flick, so you can do more fan-service and don't have to hack it down to "average theatre goer" levels of interest\profitability.
 
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Actually I have had a thought about Chiba City.
I mean do you really have to explain case's past? I figured the best idea would be to do a prologue like with Blade Runner (the ONLY nod to blade runner that should be in the film) and just explain "Case == Hacker, Did some stupid shit, and is now about to be killed" and then the Memphis scene, then case running off to Chiba, Remove Linda and Julius, Go up to the point where he runs into molly and then meets Armitage. Thats probably the quickest way of getting through Chiba City blues without loosing too much (aside from Linda who I think would be a shame to cut out, but then we've already got a leading lady so it ain't needed).

My game adaptation I was definitely thinking Heavy Metal but more detailed than the Cell animation since we're now living in an age where you can paint lighting effects and shadows onto characters so it doesn't have to look so dated as that.. but it can still look like that.. confused Big Grin. I need to buy a new copy of Heavy Metal, I'll probably do that. My old VHS of it is a bit fucked.
 
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I don't think much has to be cut at all. The beauty of Bill's writing is that he is so descriptive that something that takes about a page could be shown in two seconds.

Some of the stuff Riviera does could be trimmed, as long as there is enough of it to establish how whacked his gear is and what a total bastage he is.

Linda Lee is essential to the WHY and WHO of Case, though. He had a moment where his life could have been different, he made some really poor choices, and cast off the one person who cared about him by pulling her into his downward spiral.

If it was going to be animation, then FF/Beowulf type animation would be alright, but as close to real as possible. I need to see the sweat as much as the chrome for it to work for me.
 
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Originally posted by jbx:
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Originally posted by UberDog:
I think CGIO would be good if done right.

Sense/Net I thought about but it's heavy action and eye candy, plus it establishes what Case does when he "hacks."


It is both of those things that's true. I was thinking more from a streamlining perspective it has all this weird shit, which, as lovers of Teh Gibz books, we here are quite down with, but for a "standard movie audience"?

Panthern Moderns, and their suits, and the media clip, and the ROM, and, again, all cool, all things I'd want to see, but can't they be masked to other purposes? Dixie Flatline can be culled, the rest of it doesn't really come up again in plot terms.

You can extend Case running from Molly in Chiba and Molly vs. Hideo for action and the first and the final Matrix scenes should provide enuff netty action.

Of course, if it was up to me it'd be a mini-series more so than a feature flick, so you can do more fan-service and don't have to hack it down to "average theatre goer" levels of interest\profitability.


The problem with making movies for the "standard movie audience" is that such a thing is yet another Hollywood fiction. They have no idea what is going to work until it hits screens and their predilection toward making that which they think addresses the mean only serves to hamper their profits.

It's an ass-backwards industry. What a company is wiser to do is to make more small films with a greater niche potential. Apply the long tail because the blockbuster model is going to make the implode. Blockbusters are at the very least 50% due to the fact the studios put all their money there, that they are on all the screens, that they are ubiquitous.

Conventional thought in Tinsel Town syas that it's better to make a whole bunch of people go, "Meh, it wasn't too bad," then to make them say, "Wow."

That was true before the new media paradigm began to arise, but hold true no longer.

I read this article about the publishing industry which suggested handing it over to Amazon (and this being a bit inevitable). Now, this isn't a good idea because you get a monolithic industry out of the deal, but the fact that it's migrating there (virtual) and that indicates a sell-by date for industries involved means that the shake up is coming anyhow.
 
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Originally posted by Suilebhain:
Linda Lee is essential to the WHY and WHO of Case, though. He had a moment where his life could have been different, he made some really poor choices, and cast off the one person who cared about him by pulling her into his downward spiral.


100% agree with you, she's an important character if not one of the most important. And thats why she should be removed from a film adaptation simply because it would add way too much back story. Linda is a secondary character, this is why she is killed off at the start. Plus I with all the characters I doubt the film studio could pay for all of them.
 
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Originally posted by UberDog:
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Originally posted by jbx:


Of course, if it was up to me it'd be a mini-series more so than a feature flick, so you can do more fan-service and don't have to hack it down to "average theatre goer" levels of interest\profitability.


The problem with making movies for the "standard movie audience" is that such a thing is yet another Hollywood fiction. They have no idea what is going to work until it hits screens and their predilection toward making that which they think addresses the mean only serves to hamper their profits.

It's an ass-backwards industry. What a company is wiser to do is to make more small films with a greater niche potential. Apply the long tail because the blockbuster model is going to make the implode. Blockbusters are at the very least 50% due to the fact the studios put all their money there, that they are on all the screens, that they are ubiquitous.

Conventional thought in Tinsel Town syas that it's better to make a whole bunch of people go, "Meh, it wasn't too bad," then to make them say, "Wow."

That was true before the new media paradigm began to arise, but hold true no longer.

I read this article about the publishing industry which suggested handing it over to Amazon (and this being a bit inevitable). Now, this isn't a good idea because you get a monolithic industry out of the deal, but the fact that it's migrating there (virtual) and that indicates a sell-by date for industries involved means that the shake up is coming anyhow.



I would hate to have to dumb it down for n00bz to the man's work for sure.

Thus I think a well-produced mini-series would be the best way. Smaller exposure should allow greater creative control, since it's not, as you say, a "Blockbuster" quality of money\investment\leverage.

3 2-hour blocks should be enough time to fit it all in there. Maybe even ADD material to make certain things more clear perhaps, add some flash and fightin' and such like.

And if it's hand animated rather than CGI it should be relatively cheap. Even if the Matrix parts are in CGI.

Which I still think is the best option. CGI is far too clean in my opinion and that Uncanny Valley seems to make it worse as you go, the more you tried to dirty up the CGI (to see the sweat as mentioned above) the more it would be obvious that you've got artists adding "gritty" decals to things. That is, I think using Beowulf quality CGI and adding all those dystopian touches would make it look far worse than old skool animation, which tends, to me, to look kinda grungy just by it's very nature.
 
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You cannot make a movie for fans of a book, there aren't enough of them to float a picture. Even the Da Vinci Code, which sold around 7 million copies, wouldn't have enough fans to have propelled the movie over 200 million dollars domestically.

They need to get the fractal packets in place in order to dirty up the corners. But they're still working on Macs, not Sandbenders so what can you expect?
 
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Harry something...what was it? Harry Portal? Harry Punkass? Horny Pothead? Something like that.

You can't of course really make a movie for the fans, but then....you can make a movie which the fans would like right?

Certainly you'd not want to sell such a thing based on the merits of, "Those WGBers are hardCORE man they'll watch the SHIT outta this thing!", but having a fan-base already, and marketing to them, so they can do your viral advert work for you.....

It's more about that tho, the nature of the digital dirt. Anything in a computer sim is there by design right? Where as in dirty lines and color\fill type animation the process itself is inherently dirty because it never arises from an abstract.

In CGI land you make a perfect sphere and then warp it a bit and attach a perfectly straight line and then texture map "string" on to it and then you've got a balloon.
In Heavy Metal land that's not quite the case.

I think you'd get higher density backgrounds as well that way. But I know little about such things so it's simply speculation.
 
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Alright so can't we just meet in the middle here in regards to animation? I've come to the conclusion the best way to do this is to go through Heavy Metal style animation however with Computer generated lighting and remove the sketchy look of Heavy Metal - reason being is because that comic book feel won't work for Neuromancer it has to be very clean work and very photo realistic, so what I mean is that I'm going to aim at defining the shapes of the characters using lighting rather than lines, same goes with the other geometrics used. It's really a combination of the two. Cyberspace however will be entirely 3D, this is because the interplay video game used the difference between 2D and 3D to depict the difference in the real world and cyberspace - this is something I really want to achieve.

In terms of episodic, I am most likely going to push my Neuromancer adaptation down that path, releasing each chapter as they become finished work - this means my release dates will be sooner and the end product will be better (since all the bugs will be ironed out).

In terms of Harry Potter yes, the same could easily be applied to cyberpunk where it still maintains what fans love about it but at the same time breaks away from the stereotypes of the genre, this is where Harry Potter works and why it makes so much money. Cyberpunk can quite easily be refitted to offer something new and yet still be the same Sci-Fi we've all come to like, Harry Potter is the Fantasy equivalent. Ideally all we really have to do is remove the Sci-Fi elements from it and present the story in a way that the viewer can relate to it, again Harry Potter does this well because it doesn't feel like Fantasy initially, until you start getting the really unrealistic ideas popping out and then it all becomes surreal - and maybe thats why kids love it so much.

I think the easiest way to explain how to do this is establish a GROUND level where the story is presented in a way that the viewer understands it and recognizes it. Once we've done this we can start warping the ideas a bit and hence make it something totally original which IMO is what Neuromancer really needs.
 
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I say shadowpuppetry or nothing.

OK. And laser pointers.

Shadow puppets w/ laser pointers.

What more could you ask for?
 
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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:
I say shadowpuppetry or nothing.

OK. And laser pointers.

Shadow puppets w/ laser pointers.

What more could you ask for?


Animal noises.
 
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well that would save me time on rendering I guess :P
 
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Originally posted by UberDog:
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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:
I say shadowpuppetry or nothing.

OK. And laser pointers.

Shadow puppets w/ laser pointers.

What more could you ask for?


Animal noises.


That would ruin the *purity* of the thing.
 
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You know what I'm actually most concerned about?

How they're going to envision cyberspace.

I have this terrible fear of it looking like "Hackers" where it's a bunch of stupid, irrelevant text floating around in three dimensions with a 3D avatar of the characters flying through it...

Gibson's descriptions of Sprawl-universe cyberspace seem to me to be a lot more utilitarian. Who I would really like to see brought in as a consultant for this film is actually Edward Tufte, author of The Visual Display of Quantitative Information and several other really good books on data visualization.
 
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Agreed with the hackers comment. Though I'm very concerned at how you do display avatars because we've never actually had a real good indication as to what the self looks like in cyberspace. (as many have said before its a network of millions of users and yet you can't see any of them Big Grin most likely because the avatars are represented no differently from the rest of the data - the only way to communicate is to actually know which is data and which is an avatar, in terms of how an AI like Neuromancer sees this it seems logical to me that neither is distinguishable since ultimately everything is data, meaning you could get a pretty rough idea as to how intelligent these things are when they came chasing after you Big Grin. (same goes for ICE too though ICE are more like scripted AI in that they can't adapt to user behavior (making them shit loads easier to hack)))

At least thats how I saw it Big Grin. I should definitely read up on this stuff, its a pity none of this is even illustrated as in terms of style it makes sense to actually try and visually show what data visually looks like Big Grin

One thing I'm positive about though is that Cyberspace will have the structure of a modern computer network. (Gate ways, servers, routers, terminals and Databases - Databases being the most important)

In terms of a film though you wouldn't have to explain any of that since its all visual so really you just have to make it look like a computer system. But then I should really read up on this stuff before jumping to conclusions Big Grin
 
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Neuromancer - the movie - should be a trilogy on its own. I'm afraid cinemagoers won't be able to grasp the complex Sprawliverse (and LEO-space) if it's condensed into a 120 minute videoclip, regardless of acting/budget.

Spill too much pixie dust on the viewers, and you're lucky if your movie will be considered cult (and maybe make some money 20 years later, if you're Ridley Scott and you had Harrison Ford and Rutget Hauer to help you).
 
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