This is Bad News!

This thread is like the Weird News and Good News threads.

Only it's about BAD NEWS.

Please keep in mind that different people can see the same event as good or bad.
And there's a good chance you'll want to punch people who disagree with you in the face.

Feel free to create a separate thread if you feel like debating something.

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I kick off with :
Utah Theater Cancels 'Brokeback Mountain'

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Gayle Ruzicka, president of the conservative Utah Eagle Forum, said not showing the film set an example for the people of Utah.
 
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Strangely, this *is* bad news:

Anonymous trolling is now illegal

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It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.

In other words, it's OK to flame someone on a mailing list or in a blog as long as you do it under your real name. Thank Congress for small favors, I guess.
 
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A british researcher did a study and decided the most depressing day of the year is Jan 23.That is the day Canada chose for its federal election.
I think the conservatives are going to win a powerless minority government. Canada will have its own George Bush.
 
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"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration reports that at least 76 dogs nationwide are believed to have died as a result of eating contaminated Diamond Pet Foods.

The company has recalled 19 varieties of dog and cat food because tests showed high levels of aflatoxin, a naturally occurring toxic chemical that comes from a fungus found on corn and other grains that causes severe liver damage in animals."

Poor puppies. Poor kitties. That makes me sad.
 
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Originally posted by Justy:
Strangely, this *is* bad news:

Anonymous trolling is now illegal


The reader comments on the Boing Boing article about it suggest that this isn't anywhere near as bad as it sounds. What it makes illegal is anonymous harrassment, which was (surprise!) already illegal.
 
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Oh for Christ's sake, don't these so-called "lawmakers" have more important things to do than make up vague laws that are un-enforceable at best, and subject to abuse by our increasingly fascist government at worst?

As if the courts aren't overwhelmed already.

%$#@&!!!
 
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Here's what looks (to me) like the best explanation:

http://www.privacylawyer.ca/blog/2006/01/anonymous-net-...-headed-to-jail.html

Basically, it expands the old telephone annoyance/harass/threaten law to internet communications via software (such as email, IM, and VoIP), but not internet services (I assume this means bulletin boards or message boards, IRC, usenet, that sort of thing). There still needs to be clarification regarding the difference between "software" and "service," though.
 
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Amnesty releases new claims of torture, ill-treatment at Guantanamo Bay (Forbes)

I don't really know where to sort this one :
it's good to have testimonies out...
But what they tell is pretty damn fucking bad.

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He also spoke of beatings, sexual assaults, threats to his family and having to endure lengthy periods in solitary confinement, plus disease, illness and infection being rife among those held at the camp.
 
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Originally posted by ArkanGL:
Amnesty releases new claims of torture, ill-treatment at Guantanamo Bay (Forbes)

I don't really know where to sort this one :
it's good to have testimonies out...
But what they tell is pretty damn fucking bad.

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He also spoke of beatings, sexual assaults, threats to his family and having to endure lengthy periods in solitary confinement, plus disease, illness and infection being rife among those held at the camp.


Really?!? A politically driven prison that's off-shore and uses torture and ill-treatment.

Well, colour me "fucking surprised" (HINT - it's the crayon next to "Prussian Blue")
 
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That's not a surprise for anybody.
But it's the closest thing we'll get to a proof.
 
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Originally posted by Crash:
Well, colour me "fucking surprised" (HINT - it's the crayon next to "Prussian Blue")


HAHAHAHAHA! You are very funny. I'd still like to reeducate, a la Orange Clockwork style, those twin white supremacists girls.
 
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I'd, frankly, like to beat the shit out of them with my Ironbark slab. (I'm extremely equal-opportunistic with racist-anyones, male or female. It's ironic, as well as satisfying).

In other news (this is for boog and anarcho):

Axl's car deals fall through

"I just washed my sportscar. Only kidding; it got repossessed, and I left seafood in the trunk."

Points for spotting the above reference.
 
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Jacques Chirac, on the use of French nukes

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France will maintain and develop its nuclear forces to counter states that might resort ``to terrorist means'' by using weapons of mass destruction, President Jacques Chirac said.



More detailed French article

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Pour le chef de l'Etat, le terrorisme, mais aussi "la garantie de nos approvisionnements stratégiques et la défense de pays alliés", sont des cas où l'utilisation de la force nucléaire est envisageable.


Which I translate as :
"For the Head of the State, terrorism, but also "the insurance of our strategical supplies and the protection of out allies", are cases where the use of nuclear weapons can be considered.


What the cock?

"Strategical supplies" ?
Like oil?

"Iran doesn't want to sell us oil anymore, so we can nuke them"?

Although I contributed to his election,
I do not condone anything this buffoon does.
I promise I'll vote against him in 2007,
before leaving the country for good.
 
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gaaah, it could be beginning of the end

"when French can nuke, why can't we?"
 
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Originally posted by boogerhead:
"Operations that need preperations."


Like Al Qaida have any control over what is going on in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's only in the minds of the US people that Al Qaida are acting in those theatres. The reality is insurgents and warlords that are there because the US invaded and would be there with or without Al Qaida.
 
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granted.
 
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Tying someone up, stuffing them head first into a sleeping bag and sitting on their chest until they die is not murder.

Pressuring the jury in a murder trial is ok too.
 
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Ford to slash almost 1/4 of US workforce. They intend to slash production by 26%.

Even more bad news is that this may not help. The biggest cost of a new Ford car is the healthcare and pensions of ex-Ford workers. Slashing production will actually raise the percentage of the cost that is going to pay Ford pensioners.
 
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Originally posted by Kradlum:
Tying someone up, stuffing them head first into a sleeping bag and sitting on their chest until they die is not murder.

Pressuring the jury in a murder trial is ok too.


And, when you get found guilty of "negligent homicide" (I sat on his chest while he was tied up and stuffed head first in a sleeping bag. How negligent of me.) you get a $6000 fine and confined to barracks for 60 days. So kids, just remember this method if you need someone dead but don't want to do the time, and it's always handy to be tried by your "family".

Of course, in a civilised country they would call tying someone up, stuffing them head first into a sleeping bag and sitting on their chest "torture", but in America they call it an "approved interrogation technique".
 
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Dix condamnés à perpétuité réclament la peine de mort pour eux-mêmes
(the article is in French)

Basically :
Ten people with life sentences have written a letter asking for death penalty for themselves.

"Nous préférons en finir une bonne fois pour toute que de nous voir crever à petit feu, sans espoir d'aucun lendemain"

Which means :
'We'd rather end it once and for all,
instead of slowly die without any hope for a future.'


That says a lot about the state of French prisons.
And it also gives material for pro-death-penalty people to toy with.


"Bad.. bad bad bad!"
 
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I don't know if that is such bad news. Weird news maybe. I think I'd be in favour of a voluntary death penalty. It's not like you'll have lengthy appeals and the possibility of executing an innocent man.

It sure beats having someone sit on death row for 25 years and be resuscitated from a heart attack just so you can kill them.
 
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If being in jail is so bad that they'd rather die, then it's definitely bad news (although not surprising).

I agree with the general sentiment.
But that would open too many ways towards coming back to plain death penalty.
Moreover -and I know it sucks to say that- if they really want to die, they can commit suicide.

Then, it also opens the question of euthanasy, which is definitely not solved here.

Voluntary death penalty would require undeniable proof that the person wants to die.
And what about the possibility of being released earlier than expected?
And amnesty?

Nah.
State-enforced suicide is waaaaay BAD.
 
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So I came here to post as I am at school with kids until the district releases children to catch buses. A "fighter Jet has crashed at a Trailer park adjacent to the Pioneer home here in Ketchikan.
My grandma called me at school minutes ago to tell me her building was filled with smoke; that she was scared. I was able to find out from a nurse at the home My Grandma and the residents of the building are all fine. But Jesus! A Jet has crashed inside city limits. We are holding kids at school until parents of children in the park contact someone to let us know they are alive to receive their children. God I hope all our kids here still have parents. My ninety-one year old Grandma Is shaken. Quite literally I guess.
 
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Bad news indeed. Crossing my fingers on your behalf, Thal.
 
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Good luck, Thal; hoping for the best.
 
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Thank you much Gromit and Etruscan,
I just got back from the pioneer home. My poor Alzheimer suffering' Grandma took a little settling down. She kept asking "Are we on fire, Is this building on fire?" The Pioneer Home is downwind from the accident site and had received quite a bit of smoke. I was at loose ends as I knew my mom was in the area at the time and in fact she did see the jet dissaper behind the building she had just exited. She heard the impact and saw debrie scatter. Very thoughtfully stopped at school to say "Wow..."
The fireman outside the home said he had word that it was a "Slovakian military jet of some sort possibly converted for personal use." The Plane had one pilot who did not survive, though he did "Eject from the plane" Lots of talk on the street.
The people/s in both trailers survived in spite of a jet of some size (Dunno) crashing into their homes. All parents of my students are accounted for. Word has it a dog was rescued from the truck it was pinned in. the fireman I spoke to was pretty happy about that. It can't be a huge jet or I could have seen it from my grandmothers room. All is well. Thanks Guy's.
 
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Things could have been so much worse.

Thal, you live in a pretty attractive part of the world. (It's especially attractive to me right now, as it's 38 degrees Celsius outside!)
 
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Yikes Lietz you have more info on the crash then I have here in town. I went to high school with ol'Kurtis Close. The High School Janitors mother and nephew did indeed climb out through a window in their trailer with the aid of firemen to escape their home, they are both in the hospital now. Seems like minor damage when one considers where the plane went down.
 
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It is beautiful here indeed. If you don't mind rain. I think we came close to two hundred inches this year. It is a beautiful area though. Wow 38 degrees celsius, I can not conceive being that warm. It is alternately Zero to Five celsius here right now.
Moss, saltwater and evergreens is what this place smells like, and diesel if you live on the north end of town.Oh yeah things could have been much worse. the jet stopped maybe fifty yards or so from a Grocery store and fifty more from the old folks home. This town will rally around the families that lost everything. Fundraisers are underway already. So very different from so much of the world where there is no disposable income to speak of or health care. D.E.C. is flying in for clean -up all ready.
 
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My wish came true; glad everyone came through o.k., if not for the pilot (and I'm sure s/he would be too). I'll be curious to learn wtf happened up there anyway, when/if they recover the 'black box'.
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Two FBI agents also planned to go to the crash site, said agent Bob Burnham. "It's a combat aircraft and we have some questions about that," he said.
Curiouser and curioser.
 
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Having been in jail a couple of times, once in Pakistan, I can tell you that even that is preferable to dieing
 
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Originally posted by theEtruscan:
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Two FBI agents also planned to go to the crash site, said agent Bob Burnham. "It's a combat aircraft and we have some questions about that," he said.
Curiouser and curioser.


It wasn't really a combat aircraft, it was a jet trainer. Admittedly they were only ever bought by Air Forces but it was hardly a combat plane.

These are quite common now, I have a number of friends (mostly in CA) who own ex military aircraft and fly them on regular occasions (they call them 'warbirds'). Most of them fly propeller engined warbirds, ranging from Cesna 02s to seriously overengined Sea Furies but I do know 2 of them with jets, one of them an Albatross similar to the downed Alaska plane and one Alpha Jet, which really IS a combat plane.

If you are in SoCal and even vaguely interested, go to Chino airport where most of my friends keep their planes & where they fly them most weekends.

As it was a 2 seater and on its way to Las Vegas it was most likely on its way to a combat
simulation business. There are now a number of these where you and a friend go up in 2 seat planes & whilst the pilot remains in ultimate control, the 2 of you 'dogfight' until you run out of ammo or are shot down.

If you click on the link, you will notice the it says about the Albatross "This adventure is currently unavailable"

LN
 
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Britons unconvinced on evolution (BBC)

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More than half the British population does not accept the theory of evolution, according to a survey.

Furthermore, more than 40% of those questioned believe that creationism or intelligent design should be taught in school science lessons.

The survey was conducted by Ipsos MORI for the BBC's Horizon series.


As one of the most emblematic Britons would say : "Uh Oh!"

 
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Originally posted by LeitzNoctilux:
As it was a 2 seater and on its way to Las Vegas it was most likely on its way to a combat
simulation business. There are now a number of these where you and a friend go up in 2 seat planes & whilst the pilot remains in ultimate control, the 2 of you 'dogfight' until you run out of ammo or are shot down.

Actually, I did notice where they mentioned it was a trainer, but still ... I guess I'm just surprised civilians are allowed to pilot 'warbirds' at all. I mean, a prop-engined fighter is one thing, even an over-engined one, but a jet-fighter? May as well just give civilians guided missiles to play with.
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It wasn't really a combat aircraft, it was a jet trainer. Admittedly they were only ever bought by Air Forces but it was hardly a combat plane.

If it runs on jet-fuel, me worry (- why I never go to airshows Wink) .
 
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