quote:Originally posted by razorgirl:where have you been since January?post some more. you rock.
quote:Originally posted by tigerstripes:Because as women, we shouldn't have a unique voice because that would just be trying to attract attention, wouldn't it? By the way, don't those "really-really"s sorta cancel themselves out?
quote:Yah, it still burns me, too. But I'm shaking it off. Gimme a marshmallow -- I brought my own stick.
quote:Originally posted by tigerstripes:hahahahahahahahah -- Man...those are... really...big...marshmallows...
quote:Y'know, rg didn't just pick out you and someone else,
quote:she specifically named the four most prolific, best known female posters. Does kinda make ya wonder.
quote:And of course, it wasn't just a single post, it was an entire separate topic.
quote:With a really terrible title. And no genuine point.
quote:But you are spot on about how fast a lot of the guys leapt onto her bandwagon! *yuck!* My tum actually lurches a little just remembering it.
quote:Because ya know, those people with penises, they just don't get worked up and overexcited like us very flirty, girly, kooky, weird, eigthgrader, third person, self-differentiating, cute, difficult, flaming, stupid, little kids that just happen to have our gonads on the inside.
quote:Oh, except for wax, who was pretty neutral for a while -- while her sex was still in question, that is.
quote:Nothing's stopping the others but their own reticence to join in. [Come on in, y'all, the water's fine!]
quote:Anyway Yelena, please don't let the bastards grind you down into despair or loathing or self-doubt.
quote:Sorry, I was veering into Desiderata territory there-- scared myself.
quote:How I love a good fire! Burn, Baby, Burn!
quote:Originally posted by Jimmy C:Just to get back on topic:are we talking about Cyberpunk as a litery form or as a cultural form?
quote:Originally posted by Jimmy C:My point was that cyberpunk culture is almost transparant (especially as practically no one subscribes exclusivley to it).
quote:As a media type it is much easier to clasify as media is easier to put into classes and groups
quote:Originally posted by razorgirl:i get tagteamed, respond in kind and you tell *me* off? nice
quote:Originally posted by razorgirl:not stereotyping ourselves unthinkingly.
quote:Which still doesn't answer the question, "What is it?"
quote:Ok - Let's define it before we kill it
quote:Originally posted by dpm:i agree with you about the literary genre, but not about the culture. what 'projects' are doomed to failure? and why baby steps over generations? what whole package? whole cultural groups, clicks, music genres, fashions, scenes and lifestyles come and go in a matter of weeks here in NYC, and all large post-industrial cities. why should cpunk take generations to mature?
quote:Originally posted by mbravo:As long as there's someone reading Neuromancer, author's skill reverberating, creating interference patterns within reader's experience and feelings, that patricular work of fiction is alive. For author himself, the text might be long gone, because it's fixed, and even the brainwave pattern which accompanied it's birth will never be the same, or even close./\/\ike
quote:Originally posted by hughblaze:Plenty of people can speak Latin, read Latin, but ain't a lot of new Latin *words* been eteched into that lexicon in quite a while, you know.
quote:As far as "new work" I really wish someone would pick up the ball and run with it in this new century. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy PR, but it is not cyberpunk. Successful (in terms of accomplishing what it sets out to do, not sales), but not cyberpunk.
quote:Originally posted by mbravo:Well, I'm not at all sure that Pattern Recognition, or any other WG book did have something that it set out to do, an agenda or something like it At least it wouldn't fit into my personal perception of their creation process./\/\ike
quote:Originally posted by TVgeek:Just to make things more interesting...In this month's WIRED magazine, none otherthan Neal Stephenson calls cyberpunk "history".