quote:Originally posted by TwiliteMinotaur:I guess more Rage.
quote:Also it is possible that reporters that have experience covering protests against real murderous dictators in places like Egypt aren't too keen on calling attention to folks trying to co-opt that viral anger and direct it at bankers and capitalist symbols.
quote:But for now, they are just a bunch of people with signs sitting in a park and not slowing down business at all, at least according to what I'm reading on @GSElevator.
quote:Seems an ineffectual protest. They are certainly doing nothing to hinder business as usual, and the minimal attention they are bringing to the issue seems inconsequential. Everybody in this country KNOWS that the system is manipulated and corrupt ... what have they added to the argument?
quote: Rosa Parks was also just some lady sitting in a bus
quote:She worked for the NAACP and her case was seized upon by a group of people competing for leadership of a growing civil rights agenda because they knew her.
quote:The other orders their troops to fire on crowds of civilians and makes war on their own people. Those aren't equal levels of evil, not by a long shot.
quote:Originally posted by editengine:I think your error here is in seeing a linear relationship where one doesn't exist. The mindless accumulation of wealth perfected on Wall Street is both a cause and a symptom of the desire for power and the creation of suffering.
quote:So far these protests, while I support them, haven't impressed me. Violence isn't the answer either. American's don't support violent political protests and rightly so. Peaceful protests, marches, and submission to arrest are how real changes have been made in this country for quite some time.
quote:The suffragettes, the lunch counter sit-in's, the voting rights marches all had in common the theme of sacrifice, I don't see that in these kids. They seem more interested in a party, in something to do, in meeting girls and it being on TV.
quote:"It had much more to do with my wanting to be with hippy girls and have lots of hashish than it did with my sympathy for the plight of the North Vietnamese people under US imperialism. Much more, much more to do with hippy girls and hashish."
quote:The nypd is rounding them up using netting
quote:Originally posted by tarj:I'd trust those glibertarian chuckleheads at Living Marxism spiked online about as far as I could comfortably spit out a rat. ((c) Douglas Adams)
quote: "All this sniping cynicism from a comfortable armchair"
quote:She isn't the only reporter who has spent real time on the scene
quote:Originally posted by editengine:quote:She isn't the only reporter who has spent real time on the scene I thought she was in a comfortable armchair?
quote:Even dedicated liberal sources such as MSNBC, AlJazeera, and HuffPost are not dedicating tons of resources to covering this.
quote:The purpose of Occupy Wall Street is simple: gather as diverse a group of demonstrators as possible to make a peaceful statement about government corruption and the privileging of big business and the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans in policy making.Yet, if one were to read the New York Times article published Friday or see the front page of Sunday morning's New York Post, one would think that Occupy Wall Street was disorganized and full of naïve rabble rousers looking to riot for rioting sake.However, these portrayals could not be further from the truth.On Sept. 24, I had the opportunity to spend time at the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations in Zuccotti Park. I had been downtown at the beginning of this past week and had witnessed the early stages of the protests, but had heard little about the evolution of the demonstrations in the media as the week wore on. Due to the lack of media attention being given to Occupy Wall Street, I decided to head downtown and see it for myself.To say that the demonstrators are only hippies and radicals pining for 1968 would be a gross misstatement. Rather, the demonstrators come from diverse backgrounds: environmentalists, feminists, former and current Wall Street bankers, traders and brokers, anarchists, socialists, members of the LGBTQ community, teachers, students, Republicans, Democrats, libertarians, people of color, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Atheists, retired NYPD police officers, members of the FDNY, journalists, musicians, photographers...the list could go on and on. Yet, the one thing that this varied group of people has in common is that they are tired of government corruption and the privileging of corporations and the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans by the American government.Additionally, the demonstration was not as disorganized as some media outlets have argued. Rather, it was highly organized and based on consensus. To make announcements, a "mic check" would take place. Whoever wished to speak would yell, "Mic check!" to gain the attention of fellow protestors. The speaker would then share four- or five-word snippets and those around her or him would loudly repeat what was being said to allow the message to reverberate throughout the park. If a decision regarding whether or not to take some form of organized action needed to be made, a consensus amongst the demonstrators first had to occur. Schedules for the day were distributed in the morning and alterations were made when necessary--alterations based on consensus.
quote:Well said, Twilight. I've enjoyed this thread, thanks. And here's another bump for Max Keiser. Episode 188 is a work of art.